i was thinking... smp is a bit too full of members
so i was thinking...
A NEW SMP RANK!

called (drumroll) promember!
build something EPIC and be a high rank on classic
and the rank colour is red...
post ur thoughts here!
(no new cmds for the rank...)

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

Or we could bring back (Drum rolllll) Adv Builder

on smp?
i wasnt there then

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

Nah, Adv builder was replaced with architect ages ago on classic

this is in the SMP forum chris

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I know, and I'm recommending Adv builder for SMP, not promember^^

hmm... welll smp needs a new rank... whatever the name
waay too many green names!

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

and it looks cool red

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isn't the purpose of ranks to have more trust and therefore more commands? It is sort of pointless to have a new rank that is exactly the same as a lesser rank. Though for SMP there aren't any commands left that aren't for ops and admins.

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well... ideas for commands then
able to tp
(not summon)
able to disband ur own faction
get more warps

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

being able to disband is an op command possibly admin, most warps are private only ops can warp to private.

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Disbanding isn't an op command, there are two permission commands for disbanding. factions.disband for anyone under op, and then factions.disband.any for op+

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IT doesn't really matter if you don't gain any more commands in my opinion. I just think it should be a goal to achieve, instead of staying member.

New Rank - Pros and Cons

Pros:
- Gives members something to work for.
Cons:
- There would be nothing different expect for the name color, and therfore is purely aesthetic.



Indeed, there are a lot of members, but I don't believe there is a need for a new rank.

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Another pro. Shows you are a potential active member of the community. There can be higher trust levels for these ranks. Another pro, these players could have a role of moderating when there are no ops on. They don't need knew commands however, Zion could implement a new rule saying to respect higher ranks or something along the lines so builders feel that these higher ranks are keeping them in tack.

indeed... it is a more looked up to rank

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

And something you know you've earned when you achieve that rank. It would feel good to be that rank, and couldn't hurt to implement. There are more pro's than cons, and the cons don't really matter much. There's only really benefits to come of this.

yes.. if this rank happens.. ill work my way up to it the most i can
and im sure others will too!
(although i think some of us are allready ready... like igloo)

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

So a new rank, with no extra permissions.

I am considering more ranks for SMP, due to stepping stones. Similarly to Classic, where higher up members can kick and possible tempban players, it could cause issues due to people having arguments and doing bad things (as per the Joe/LepVoth incident). If this were to take place, ranks would be similar to Classic (maybe skipping a few like Artisan, Designer, Blockmason etc) and a few extra permissions would be set, like the ability to kick players, or the ability to perform more advanced commands.

Well firstly, I think before new ranks are implemented, ops should have higher command rights so the commands for ranks a balanced. Like undo and ban, because ops just have to look at grief and go "Sorry, ops can't ban." I only think high moderation commands like ban and temp-ban should be kept to ops, and maybe the most advanced builder rank (like classic, where temp-ban is the only moderation command for the most advanced builder rank. Again, like classic). I think this because the classic servers commands for ranks are very well balanced.
I don't mind having a new builder rank having no new builder permissions, but maybe 1 or 2 moderation commands may set some members straight when they start considering taking advantage of that time when no ops are online.

indeed

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Ops have always, always been able to ban users. Unfortunately it doesn't match what they're used to in Classic, but that's a limitation of relying on multiple people for multiple plugins. There is a post in an Op only forum explaining this.

Ops have always been able to rollback the actions of others too. Again, the formatting of the command must be precise, otherwise the command fails, and most of the time the plugin developers don't catch that exception, and don't inform the command executor.

I see. So even if a new rank is implemented, there may be no mod commands or there may be (I don't mind). I just like the idea of working towards a builder rank again

Job, Impress Geran. Good luck.

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wat? ._.

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I know exactly what you mean Techy...

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

might i ask why you put the search result not the image url XD

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Tsk tsk tsk, Geran is not impressed.

because i couldnt be bothered to put it as a pic

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

so... is this rank happening?

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I'm in favor of a new rank. I can see why ops really couldn't care about it because they have no reason or possibility to achieve it. Members would find it fun to try to achieve this new rank and would be quite fun, and there's no harm or much trouble implementing. As I said before, the benefits are quite worthwhile, and the disadvantages did not matter as much. I think it would be great to implement

ideed... i just need a post from zion...

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

Add a poll for convenience ^^

urm... how exactly? never done it before :3

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Leader of the Might City of Varlos

first we need to decide its name anyway

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